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Unread postby sounders4life » Sat Jan 4, 2014 9:26:12 pm

So I posted a small amount before but not sure where the thread is now but talking about homebrew. I mentioned many times and finally when I get my signing bonus from work (yes Boeing) I'm going to get my starting equitment!! So my question is I'm going to start with five gallion batches I've done one one gallon grain batch I'd prefer all grain brews any advice or tips on homebrew kits or recipes for American hefs or lagers? Sorry for the pickyness on beer type my wife likes lighter beers. Any help or tips on kits or recipes would be helpful?
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Unread postby jbraaten » Sat Jan 4, 2014 10:47:24 pm

Welcome to the madness Broseph!! We have a good amount of homebrewers here. There's a big brewin thread labeled "ECS Homebrewers" on the forums, but post what you want here too. I'm on my phone so I can't share the link.

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Unread postby sounders4life » Sun Jan 5, 2014 2:53:24 pm

Thanks I've done one just to get my feet wet a gallon of chocolate maple porter I'm going to upgrade to five gallons I've never done extract but don't know enough to creat my own recipes
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Unread postby cethe » Mon Jan 6, 2014 1:32:01 pm

they don't really have kits for all grain brewing. but if you google it, you'll find several ways to go about it.

where you at? i'm a big ol homebrewer that's making the jump to pro brewer as soon as i get a space.

but essentially you'll need one boil kettle large enough for your finished batches (5 gallon finished you need at least a 6-7 gallon boil kettle)

Mash tun for steaping grains, either a kettle you can keep on low, or a cheaper option is usually some form of cooler with a filter set up on the spigot. will take some modification, but again google it, there's lots of options.

two big things that matter on your set up are:
temp control. if you want to do lagers or pilsners, you need to be able to ferment at a fairly consistent 50 degrees
stainless steel. use it. don't get aluminum. especially if you're going to do hefe's with any citrus
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Unread postby Llarian » Mon Jan 6, 2014 1:41:17 pm

I'd actually say you really need a 7.5G kettle, 10G worked a lot better for me. Anything less than 7.5 and you can expect to make a huge mess at hot break.

Aluminum is hotly debated still, I think it's fine for hot liquor tuns, kettles, etc. What little bit of the oxide layer that does break down is minimal at best given the short length of time of exposure. It's make a shit mash tun (no insulating properties) though, and I wouldn't use it in a fermenter (too long of a contact time)
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Unread postby cethe » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:41:42 pm

apparently there's a reaction with citrus & aluminum during the boil. i've used alum for HLT & Kettle for years, but i never use citrus.

if you want to spend a bucket of money on your hobby, check out the Blichmann systems
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Unread postby sounders4life » Mon Jan 6, 2014 7:48:34 pm

I'm in the north end in lake stevens I've been to and checked out homebrew heaven also online monster brewing and northern brewing all if which look pretty good I think
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Unread postby cethe » Tue Jan 7, 2014 12:40:06 pm

LOL, my mom in law lives in lake stevens & my mom in snohomish. I took my mom to homebrew heaven so she could by my xmas gift last year. good store. seems like good people.

I don't know about their fabricating skills, but if they aren't very good. I can say the Bob at Bob's Homebrew in U-Village does excellent work.
also, check out craigslist. search "Mash tun" to filter out the "brew kits in a box" if you want a real all grain system.
there's a couple in your hood right now actually
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Unread postby sounders4life » Wed Jan 8, 2014 7:32:03 pm

The direction I was thinking was the home brew heavan heaven deluxe kit at store.homebrewheaven.com any thoughts I figured that with a kettle I'm going to cook in the garage and a glass carboy that's my thought for starting off then maybe upgrade in the future.
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Unread postby cethe » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:41:11 am

none of those kits are bad kits to start with for extract or partial mash, but they will not work for all grain brewing.
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Unread postby sounders4life » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:48:51 am

sounders4life wrote:The direction I was thinking was the home brew heavan heaven deluxe kit at store.homebrewheaven.com any thoughts I figured that with a kettle I'm going to cook in the garage and a glass carboy that's my thought for starting off then maybe upgrade in the future.

Ah ok fair Enough thanks does that require some sort of meshing? Is it only partial grain that uses the mesh sack how does that work?
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Unread postby cethe » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:55:20 am

in short, yes.

i do partial in a bag/cooler combo until i move & can get a bigger cooler, then i'll put a false bottom in or stainless strainer on the drain and i'll start doin all grain all the time.
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Unread postby sounders4life » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:29:09 pm

So could I do all grain and have a big mesh strainer or use a mesh sack to hold the grain? Also on all grain is it better to do half your water and rince with the other half or boil your full quantity and just rince with your boil off??
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Unread postby cethe » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:32:14 am

i do a second run & therefore a full boil.
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Unread postby Llarian » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:42:54 pm

Honestly, if you don't have the gear for a full boil/all grain, stick to partial mash.
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